asker

Anonymous asked: You're okay with shooting people, but not aborting them. It's virtually the same thing...

Ditch the intellectual dishonest, pops. 

If I shoot a person, it’s because they were trying to kill me or someone else. Abortion kills the utmost innocent who haven’t done anything, let alone anything that condemns them to death. There’s a HUGE difference.

Try again next time, you may actually put together a compelling argument.

asker

Anonymous asked: Before you condemn abortion, I want you to realize that you won't ever experience pregnancy. You will never have to carry something that damages your body and prevents you from living a normal life for 9 months. If you are pregnant against your will, then you might as well be carrying a parasite inside of you. Women carry the burden of a man's irresponsibility. If you oppose abortion, that's nice, you'll never have to have one.

Bullshit. By that logic, you can’t complain about:

  • High risk jobs
  • Job mortality rates
  • Lack of shelters for men
  • Lack of support for male rape victims

There are more, but I’m sick and don’t feel like it. I mean, statistically you won’t have to ever experience any things like that, so you shouldn’t worry about it. Why not just say “You’ve never fixed a car, so you can’t have an opinion on how one is made?” Or “you’ve never committed a murder, so you can’t have an opinion when one happens?”

This logic is so obviously flawed, it hurts the eyes to see. Your gender does not dictate your morals and it certainly doesn’t dictate the killing of innocent children. Stop pushing tired talking points that really do nothing but show your ignorance and unwillingness to have an open and honest debate.

On top of that, if you had read my “about me” page, you would have seen I actually support exemptions for cases involving rape, incest, and health concerns. As bad as that may sound, that only accounts for roughly 4-6% of all abortions carried out in America. 

Remember: Just because you’ll never experience something does not mean you can’t stand up for/against it. When you see something you see a moral imperative or an injustice, you stand up and fight it with ever fiber of your being. Just try and be honest about it next time, ok?

coffeestainsonmywhiteteeshirt:

spewingoutspawns:

Really? Because I have yet to see one of these pro life bigots on here help a mother or child out when they’re in need. All I’ve seen is “you shouldn’t have had sex if you couldn’t afford a baby!”
I don’t doubt that SOME pro-lifers are going through with the movement to actually help earthbound beings, but most are just pro-birth and that’s a fact, Jack.

I know I’m going to get hate for this. I may even lose a few followers. I hope not, I hope you all are mature enough to look past it as I do to you. This is in regards to the above comment. I am pro life. I have always been pro life. I believe in equality of life to all living creatures. I do not place my life above any other. My pro life journey began at 4 years old, on my 4th birthday when I made the connection that meat was animals, & that these animals had to die to provide us this meat. That broke my heart, & I vowed to never eat another animal again, a vow I have kept for 18 years. My whole life, I have donated my time, money, supplies, & knowledge to bettering the lives of those around me, both human & critter alike. In my time helping others, I have met many other people who are like minded, who strive for a better life for all. I am so exhausted of “pro choicers” using this as an argument. While I don’t pretend that there are some who strictly put effort into ensuring a baby is born but take to interest post birth, it is not my case, nor is it the case of the people I surround myself with. The issue at hand doesn’t seem to be about a pregnancy or baby, the issue at hand seems to be about enabling society with essentials & abilities to better their lives. Shouldn’t that be what your focus is? To raise the quality of life, not support taking life away in the face of hardships? After all, we have no idea what life will hold for those who’s future are hazy; the drug addicts, the homeless or poor, the teen moms, the sexually assaulted, the ones with medical conditions, etc. I have met mothers in these circumstances, & I have met children that were born to mothers in these circumstances, & their children or their life is worth no less than mine. It is not up to us to dictate a life’s worth. I believe in equality of life to all, & I strive to make that a reality.

coffeestainsonmywhiteteeshirt:

spewingoutspawns:

Really? Because I have yet to see one of these pro life bigots on here help a mother or child out when they’re in need. All I’ve seen is “you shouldn’t have had sex if you couldn’t afford a baby!”

I don’t doubt that SOME pro-lifers are going through with the movement to actually help earthbound beings, but most are just pro-birth and that’s a fact, Jack.

I know I’m going to get hate for this. I may even lose a few followers. I hope not, I hope you all are mature enough to look past it as I do to you. This is in regards to the above comment. I am pro life. I have always been pro life. I believe in equality of life to all living creatures. I do not place my life above any other. My pro life journey began at 4 years old, on my 4th birthday when I made the connection that meat was animals, & that these animals had to die to provide us this meat. That broke my heart, & I vowed to never eat another animal again, a vow I have kept for 18 years. My whole life, I have donated my time, money, supplies, & knowledge to bettering the lives of those around me, both human & critter alike. In my time helping others, I have met many other people who are like minded, who strive for a better life for all. I am so exhausted of “pro choicers” using this as an argument. While I don’t pretend that there are some who strictly put effort into ensuring a baby is born but take to interest post birth, it is not my case, nor is it the case of the people I surround myself with. The issue at hand doesn’t seem to be about a pregnancy or baby, the issue at hand seems to be about enabling society with essentials & abilities to better their lives. Shouldn’t that be what your focus is? To raise the quality of life, not support taking life away in the face of hardships? After all, we have no idea what life will hold for those who’s future are hazy; the drug addicts, the homeless or poor, the teen moms, the sexually assaulted, the ones with medical conditions, etc. I have met mothers in these circumstances, & I have met children that were born to mothers in these circumstances, & their children or their life is worth no less than mine. It is not up to us to dictate a life’s worth. I believe in equality of life to all, & I strive to make that a reality.

(via conservacat)

rightwinged:

egodram:

It’s barely the first week of class, they’re at it ALREADY.

NOTE: I’m going to make it my mission to destroy every single one of these that I see for the rest of the semester.

Pro-abort compassion for pregnant women at its finest.

Destroying cards that offer help to people who may be in a crisis in their life. Yea, that’s REAL smart, OP.

Freedom of speech encourages more ideas and possibilities being brought to the table. What you are doing is trying to silence those who disagree with you and, in this case, only want to add another option to women in need and help. That’s called Communism.

the-forward-observer:

cultureshift:

'Bioethicist' Richard Dawkins is doubling down on his controversial comments suggesting that parents of babies with Down Syndrome should “abort them and try again.” Dawkins now says that aborting babies with Down syndrome is the “moral and sensible” choice.

“For what it’s worth, my own choice would be to abort the Down fetus and, assuming you want a baby at all, try again. Given a free choice of having an early abortion or deliberately bringing a Down child into the world, I think the moral and sensible choice would be to abort,” he says about what he would tell a parent of a baby diagnosed in the womb with Down syndrome. “And, indeed, that is what the great majority of women, in America and especially in Europe, actually do.” And, again, Dawkins says it would be immoral not to kill such a baby in an abortion.
Stand with those who are less ‘perfect’ than you. Stand with Trig Palin and all those who need your voice. Stand for Life.
How we treat the least of us defines us.
Learn more.






How can anyone involved in ethics advocate killing “aborting” another human being? MR. Dawkins, sir you have no ethics.

It’s called “eugenics.” It’s not a new thing. They advocate killing or sterilizing anyone who isn’t a “productive member of society.”

the-forward-observer:

cultureshift:

'Bioethicist' Richard Dawkins is doubling down on his controversial comments suggesting that parents of babies with Down Syndrome should “abort them and try again.” Dawkins now says that aborting babies with Down syndrome is the “moral and sensible” choice.

“For what it’s worth, my own choice would be to abort the Down fetus and, assuming you want a baby at all, try again. Given a free choice of having an early abortion or deliberately bringing a Down child into the world, I think the moral and sensible choice would be to abort,” he says about what he would tell a parent of a baby diagnosed in the womb with Down syndrome. “And, indeed, that is what the great majority of women, in America and especially in Europe, actually do.” And, again, Dawkins says it would be immoral not to kill such a baby in an abortion.

Stand with those who are less ‘perfect’ than you. Stand with Trig Palin and all those who need your voice. Stand for Life.

How we treat the least of us defines us.

Learn more.

How can anyone involved in ethics advocate killing “aborting” another human being?
MR. Dawkins, sir you have no ethics.

It’s called “eugenics.” It’s not a new thing. They advocate killing or sterilizing anyone who isn’t a “productive member of society.”

themoofster:

ballisticducks:

sleepysatyr:

hey, just an fyi, the creator of five nights at freddy’s is extremely anti choice and even made a pro life video game called The Desolate Hope that’s also on steam.

if you want to play five nights, please torrent it. don’t give him any money.

Links to prove it 

http://thanksforexisting.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/the-desolate-hope-by-scott-cawthon/

(Look in the comments)

http://hopeanimation.com/news/more-games-by-scott-cawthon/

(The synopsis) 

Hey, so. The dude who made the game responded to people like you shitstains in the comments a long, long time ago. I guess all of you decided it made more sense to go out of your way to not give someone money for something they worked on based on what someone told you instead of actually looking into it yourself (in this case, scrolling a little bit further down a page.) If you hate it so much, why would you want to play it? 

Regardless, I copy/pasted the message for you.

Scott says:

Hey there, usually I try not to respond to comments about my games, whether positive or negative, because I understand that some people will like them and some people won’t. I respect everyone’s opinions. I’m an amateur game maker, I’ve never pretended to be anything else. :o)

But in this case I feel that it’s important to clarify the intent and message in The Desolate Hope. For the most part, reactions have been very positive toward the game, and it’s ending as well, but I wanted to address these concerns about the ending and message, and share some about how I feel on the subject.

Concerning the dedication at the end of the game reading “This game is dedicated to the children who never saw childhood.”, I would encourage everyone to read it to be exactly what it says and nothing more. That statement isn’t a political view on abortion. I have an aunt whose baby was strangled by it’s own umbilical cord in the womb. I know another woman whose baby died for unknown reasons in the final weeks before delivery; she had to give birth to a dead baby (I can’t imagine how awful that had to be). I have a good friend who had a miscarriage only a few weeks into her pregnancy, and while some certainly wouldn’t consider that a baby yet, it was a child to her and she cried for weeks, even naming her “Willow”. A friend of mine from high school had a young daughter who drown in a swimming pool when she was 2. With those children in mind, I absolutely dedicate my game to the children who never saw childhood, because they die from hunger, from natural causes, from unnatural causes, from accidents, and from unknown reasons, every day. Everyone reading this forum has lived a full life already compared to the millions who barely taste it.

I did however, remove the dedication from the actual game because of the potential for people to interpret it the wrong way. That only hurts the message of the game, which is one of love and not of hate, and certainly nothing political.

And concerning the message of the game, it WAS about choice. It wasn’t about abortion rights or stem cell research or anything like that. It was about the power behind taking something- something small and insignificant by any standards, something that has no right to exist and wouldn’t exist, and then someone choosing to give it importance and give it meaning. The baby in my story is similar, it’s implied as being not completely natural, probably grown from a test tube for the purpose of research, and had no right on it’s own to exist, and certainly not to expect a childhood or a normal life. But the game is about the power of a choice, to GIVE that, against all odds and expectations, a life to something that wouldn’t have had it otherwise. That is something powerful and something beautiful. It’s the same when someone chooses to adopt a child, you are giving a childhood to someone who wouldn’t have had it otherwise.

Is that principal all about abortion? No. Can it apply to abortion? Of course it can. Lets say that a woman is pregnant, maybe she doesn’t want to be, maybe it’s a product of rape. Whatever the circumstances are, they’re bad, and no one would blame her for aborting that pregnancy. But now imagine if, of her own free will, going against everyone and everything around her, she chose to keep it. Maybe she even died in childbirth for that baby as a result of that choice. As appalling as that example is- if a mother made that choice, would you accuse her of hate, or of love?

So I understand that there are very heated debates and strong opinions about this, and angry people on both sides who fan the flames. But this game was made with good intentions, with love, and with children in mind from my own experiences who I wish could be that little girl from my game, getting the childhood they never had in real life.

rightwinged:

petersimonova:

rightwinged:

Fun fact: Many people oppose abortion for non-religious reasons.

If you are a Christian you believe that a child that is killed goes to heaven or in other words paradise.

If you are a Darwinist you believe that each new child is a miracle that came about against the Odds, and that if that life is snuffed out that persons existence is over, the miracle of their existence snuffed out before realized, lost to eternity.

Non religious people should be more fervent.

No, not all Christians believe an [unbaptized] child will go to heaven. Every sect of Christianity is different, you can’t make a generalization like that and be correct.

Irrelevant. The sentiment of this post is valid and beautiful.

asker

Anonymous asked: I've had 3 abortions! Tell me how awful I am? Shame me, I know it's what you truly want to do. Uhhhhhhh.

mother-child-life:

What I truly want to do is just be here with an open mind and heart. I’ve never shamed or have any desire to shame post abortive women. If you ever need to talk to someone, I’m here.

Please, don’t ever think for a minute that just because I’m pro-life that I’m unapproachable.

That backfired on anon. Beautifully said, mother-child-life.

Y’all wanna hear a joke?

rightwinged:

proud-to-be-pro-choice:

Pro-lifers

That’s it, that’s the joke.

0/10

Wanna hear a joke: Pro-choicers who think it’s ok to deny that a fetus is actually a human being and then justify it’s eradication for the sole purpose of making life easier on the mother.

Ha. Ha ha. Ha.

asker

hebibaby06 asked: How are you for liberty when women can't even make a decision about their own body. Abortion is never synonymous with murder. Fetuses aren't sentient.

Liberty is abiding by the constraints of the Constitution and getting the federal government as much out of the lives of the citizens as possible. If you abide by the Constitution, you have to ask yourself: “Who is speaking up for the unborn’s right to life?”

Also, medical science is quickly turning against the whole “a fetus is just a lump of cells” argument. The more we learn, the more we realize how wrong we’ve been.

  • Day 1 - conception takes place.
  • 7 days - tiny human implants in mother’s uterus.
  • 10 days - mother’s menses stop.
  • 14 days - recoils from external stimuli.
  • 18 days - heart begins to beat.
  • 21 days - pumps own blood through separate closed circulatory system with own blood type.
  • 28 days - eye, ear and respiratory system begin to form.
  • 42 days - brain waves recorded, skeleton complete, reflexes present.
  • 7 weeks - photos of thumbsucking have been documented.
  • 8 weeks - all body systems present.
  • 9 weeks - squints, swallows, moves tongue, makes fist.
  • 11 weeks - spontaneous breathing movements, has fingernails, all body systems working.
  • 12 weeks - weighs one ounce.
  • 16 weeks - genital organs clearly differentiated, grasps with hands, swims, kicks, turns, somersaults, (still not felt by the mother.)
  • 18 weeks - vocal cords work – can cry.
  • 20 weeks - has hair on head, weighs one pound, 12 inches long.
  • 23 weeks - 15% chance of viability outside of womb if birth premature.*
  • 24 weeks - 56% of babies survive premature birth.
  • 25 weeks - 79% of babies survive premature birth.

(Source: M. Allen et. al., “The Limits of Viability.” New England Journal of Medicine. 11/25/93: Vol. 329, No. 22, p. 1597.)

politicsaroundtheworld:

bodilyautonomy:

politicsaroundtheworld:

pro-choicer: Just end the pregnancy! Having a baby vacuumed out or surgically removed from a woman’s body so that both beings can suffer? Sounds like a cake walk to me! Don’t be so dramatic!

98% of abortions are done before the fetus can feel any pain whatsoever so there’s no suffering on the part of the fetus.
Also of course abortion is physically much easier than pregnancy and childbirth, you ding dong, this isn’t difficult to comprehend. 

Yeah… Abortion is also the easy way out. And you’re forgetting that abortions can cause serious psychological side effects and future health problems… So is it really always that much easier to go through than a pregnancy?

The baby (that’s what it is) can feel pain at 14 days old.Day 1 - conception takes place.7 days - tiny human implants in mother’s uterus.10 days - mother’s menses stop.14 days - recoils from external stimuli.18 days - heart begins to beat.21 days - pumps own blood through separate closed circulatory system with own blood type.28 days - eye, ear and respiratory system begin to form.42 days - brain waves recorded, skeleton complete, reflexes present.7 weeks - photo of thumbsucking.8 weeks - all body systems present.9 weeks - squints, swallows, moves tongue, makes fist.11 weeks - spontaneous breathing movements, has fingernails, all body systems working.12 weeks - weighs one ounce.16 weeks - genital organs clearly differentiated, grasps with hands, swims, kicks, turns, somersaults, (still not felt by the mother.)18 weeks - vocal cords work – can cry.20 weeks - has hair on head, weighs one pound, 12 inches long.23 weeks - 15% chance of viability outside of womb if birth premature.*24 weeks - 56% of babies survive premature birth.25 weeks - 79% of babies survive premature birth.(Source: M. Allen et. al., “The Limits of Viability.” New England Journal of Medicine. 11/25/93: Vol. 329, No. 22, p. 1597.)

politicsaroundtheworld:

bodilyautonomy:

politicsaroundtheworld:

pro-choicer: Just end the pregnancy! Having a baby vacuumed out or surgically removed from a woman’s body so that both beings can suffer? Sounds like a cake walk to me! Don’t be so dramatic!

98% of abortions are done before the fetus can feel any pain whatsoever so there’s no suffering on the part of the fetus.

Also of course abortion is physically much easier than pregnancy and childbirth, you ding dong, this isn’t difficult to comprehend. 

Yeah… Abortion is also the easy way out.
And you’re forgetting that abortions can cause serious psychological side effects and future health problems… So is it really always that much easier to go through than a pregnancy?

The baby (that’s what it is) can feel pain at 14 days old.


Day 1 - conception takes place.
7 days - tiny human implants in mother’s uterus.
10 days - mother’s menses stop.
14 days - recoils from external stimuli.
18 days - heart begins to beat.
21 days - pumps own blood through separate closed circulatory system with own blood type.
28 days - eye, ear and respiratory system begin to form.
42 days - brain waves recorded, skeleton complete, reflexes present.
7 weeks - photo of thumbsucking.
8 weeks - all body systems present.
9 weeks - squints, swallows, moves tongue, makes fist.
11 weeks - spontaneous breathing movements, has fingernails, all body systems working.
12 weeks - weighs one ounce.
16 weeks - genital organs clearly differentiated, grasps with hands, swims, kicks, turns, somersaults, (still not felt by the mother.)
18 weeks - vocal cords work – can cry.
20 weeks - has hair on head, weighs one pound, 12 inches long.
23 weeks - 15% chance of viability outside of womb if birth premature.*
24 weeks - 56% of babies survive premature birth.
25 weeks - 79% of babies survive premature birth.
(Source: M. Allen et. al., “The Limits of Viability.” New England Journal of Medicine. 11/25/93: Vol. 329, No. 22, p. 1597.)

rightwingtoday:

purpleandprolife:

prolifeforall:

pjayinia:

This is perfect 👌 Via goldandrose

Of course.
This is the most annoying, least thought provoking question in the book.

I think it’s funny how some Pro-Choicers believe this is a “gotcha!” type question.

Umm seeing as everyone gay and straight have the same constitutional rights. Yes, I will defend their rights.

"This is perfect"Yea, perfectly stupid. Every man, woman and child deserve to have every single one of their rights defended. Period.

rightwingtoday:

purpleandprolife:

prolifeforall:

pjayinia:

This is perfect 👌
Via goldandrose

Of course.

This is the most annoying, least thought provoking question in the book.

I think it’s funny how some Pro-Choicers believe this is a “gotcha!” type question.

Umm seeing as everyone gay and straight have the same constitutional rights. Yes, I will defend their rights.

"This is perfect"

Yea, perfectly stupid. Every man, woman and child deserve to have every single one of their rights defended. Period.

asker

Anonymous asked: A woman should only get an abortion if the infant (or mistake in this case) was physically and/or mentally disabled in anyway, other than minor things like ADHD, or (strictly) Aspergers, they at least have some worth to them.

That’s very Progressive of you. That’s the same mentality Hitler and the Nazis had back in the day, which they learned from the early 20th century American Progressives (Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, etc.)

Look up eugenics and it’s history. If you still feel the same way, well, that’s sad.

To all pro-lifers who make Holocaust comparisons:

cultureshift:

nyeheggers:

Don’t

Don’t

Don’t

Don’t

  • Don’t

DON’T

DON’T EVER DO THIS EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER

If you ever find yourself denying the humanity of another human being, no matter the circumstances, then you are adopting the ideology that drove the Holocaust. And this is exactly what those in favor of killing preborn human beings must do.

This is what we will never fail to expose with our comparisons. This is what we must never let stand.

I guess the truth hurts, eh OP?

(via rightwinged)

asker

mahture asked: You can't kill what isn't alive.

ragingconservative007:

girlaifrey:

ragingconservative007:

sapient-wartortle:

ragingconservative007:

Except science says life begins at conception. Stop trying to deny and argue a scientific fact. It’s fucking annoying.

Where are your sources?

Fun fact: most people say “science says” in an attempt to get people to believe their bullshit without having to prove anything.

What, like the very definition of life isn’t enough?

No, it’s not. You’re going to use science, cite some sources.

And…the DEFINITION of life is not based on science?

What the fuck is it based off of if not science???

Lemme help out a bit:

  • Day 1 - conception takes place.
  • 7 days - tiny human implants in mother’s uterus.
  • 10 days - mother’s menses stop.
  • 14 days - recoils from external stimuli.
  • 18 days - heart begins to beat.
  • 21 days - pumps own blood through separate closed circulatory system with own blood type.
  • 28 days - eye, ear and respiratory system begin to form.
  • 42 days - brain waves recorded, skeleton complete, reflexes present.
  • 7 weeks - photo of thumbsucking.
  • 8 weeks - all body systems present.
  • 9 weeks - squints, swallows, moves tongue, makes fist.
  • 11 weeks - spontaneous breathing movements, has fingernails, all body systems working.
  • 12 weeks - weighs one ounce.
  • 16 weeks - genital organs clearly differentiated, grasps with hands, swims, kicks, turns, somersaults, (still not felt by the mother.)
  • 18 weeks - vocal cords work – can cry.
  • 20 weeks - has hair on head, weighs one pound, 12 inches long.
  • 23 weeks - 15% chance of viability outside of womb if birth premature.*
  • 24 weeks - 56% of babies survive premature birth.
  • 25 weeks - 79% of babies survive premature birth.

(Source: M. Allen et. al., “The Limits of Viability.” New England Journal of Medicine. 11/25/93: Vol. 329, No. 22, p. 1597.)