There are so many things to talk about here. First of all, this is a prime example of what liberals talk about when they say “common sense gun legislation.” One piece of common sense gun legislation could be that 86 year olds shouldn’t be given concealed carry permits,
- Elderly people should be treated like disabled toddlers or some other hyperbole of irresponsibility and lack of motor skills
- People who are more likely to be victimized and weaker than the general population should not be given gun permits
Thank you for explaining that the “common sense legislation” actually doesn’t make any sense, it’s just emotional feel-good BS that does nothing to curb the vast majority of gun deaths.
and that goes double for when the 86 year old isn’t a former cop himself, clearly never having been trained as a marksman.
Yeah, because cops are clearly trained marksmen. It’s not like we don’t have evidence on the contrary or anything.
If you’re a cop, you’re either a gun-guy and you train on your own dime, or you don’t really care much for guns. You go to the range once a year or something.
But no, if our 86 year old crazy couldn’t walk around with a hidden gun Obama might come with his Black Panther Muslim friends
You know that the Black Panthers are one of the best examples of gun control being inherently racist, right?
Their political beliefs aside, once they started provoviding watch over police activity in minority neighbourhoods and shouting legal advice from afar it was clear that guns provided people with security - and politicians rushed to prevent them from carrying guns.
They also made laws against Saturday Night Specials, because “fuck the poor, they can’t have guns”.
and steal all his property or something. I also don’t know if there is any kind of marksmanship training you have to go through to get a concealed carry permit, but if there isn’t there needs to be, and if there is, clearly it’s too easy to pass because Mr. almost shot a cop by mistake was able to pass and get his permit.
And cops who pass their training also shot a car with two unarmed passengers over 200 times, injuring a cop in the process. In NY the police injured 9 people trying to shoot one guy.
Just like people have to get a driver’s license, there’s still a ton of car crashes and something like 30k deaths on the road every year.
-Property is as valuable as life
Yeah, clearly you never lived in a situation in which your property was basically your survival and you had nothing else to live off.
If property is what you have as a means to sustain yourself, taking it away from you is like killing you by proxy.
There is a half of our society that feels intense paranoia, worships materialism, loves old school law and order, adheres to tough, “masculine,” macho principles and isn’t too fond of those who don’t look like themselves.
That’s bullshit. I’m against old school laws and order because it was always about protecting the elites and maintaining the status quo (in fact, old school law and order types were the ones that restricted carry rights because it threatened the balance of power), I am not tough or macho - which is why a gun would tip the odds in case some “macho”-type wants to top me in a fight just to prove how tough he is.
You’d be hard pressed to find a concealed carry person who doesn’t worship capitalism to the point they think it’s basically okay to kill to protect non-living stuff
Except that’s wrong, because anything from communists, anarchists, liberals, Democrats, etc carry guns.
There’s far too many active permits for a common political background to be statistically possible.
, or one that doesn’t demonize people of other races and cultures,
That doesn’t even deserve a response considering the multitude of ethnic and cultural backgrounds of the people taking their classes to obtain carry permits right now.
or one that isn’t intensely for the death penalty, etc, etc.
Wrong again. I know plenty of pro-gun people who are not for the death penalty. I don’t consider myself well-informed enough to have an opinion but the fact is that while I’d strongly support the concept of people giving up their rights when they violate others’s, we rarely can trust the state to imprison people let alone execute them.
I don’t want the death penalty, and yet I support gun and carry rights.
Learn one thing about a person and you can know a lot more about their other views without even having to ask.
Where I come from we call that “prejudice”.
What’s really crazy to me is that there was no mention in the story of this guy having his concealed carry permit, let alone his guns, taken away, or even any mention of him being forced to go to safety training classes. It sounds like nothing happened to him as a result of this. Imagine for a second that the cops had been shooting at this kid as he ran away. At the very least they’d be investigated, and assuming the thief never flashed his gun at them they’d be in line to lose their badges for doing such a thing. Yet, if an untrained citizen does it, it’s just, “oh it’s okay, we know you meant well.” I repeat for the final time. WHAT THE FUCK?
Yeah, we know for a fact that good cops who try to come forward and blow the whistle are shitcanned. Many times they have no choice except cover for the bad cops to avoid making superiors look bad. The brass in the police forces is heavily politicized.
Accept that a badge is frequently a license to kill.