After Mike Rowe Had a Disagreement With a Lawyer at a Liquor Store, He Went Home and Wrote This Scathing Facebook Post

Had a spirited conversation last night with some locals down at the liquor store. The subject was shoplifting, and the topic arose because of this photo. As you can see, it was taken from a security camera, and features a guy in a white tee-shirt. The headline identifies the individual as a shoplifter. The photo is posted in the front window for all to see.

“Good for you,” I said to the owner. “I wish every store in the country did this.”

The guy in line behind me held a different view. ”Really? How would you feel if you were in that photo?”

“Well, I guess I’d feel like a shoplifter who got publicly shamed,” I said.

“Yeah, but what if you didn’t do it? How would that make you feel?”

“If I were falsely accused I would feel angry. But why would the owner put my face in his window and identify me as a shoplifter if he didn’t have proof that I was in fact a shoplifter?”

“Mistakes happen,” said the guy in line.

I looked at the manager and said, “Frank, have you ever made a mistake or falsely accused someone of shoplifting from your store?”

“Of course not,” said Frank. “I have the proof on the video. I put up a new photo every week. I have hundreds of these scumballs on tape.”

“Really? So has this strategy helped cut down on theft?”

“Big time,” said Frank. I used to get ripped off every day. Now it’s more like once a week.”

Then a third guy chimed in. He identified himself as a lawyer, and said that even if Frank had proof of the crime, the guy in the photo could sue him and very likely win. I was incredulous.

“On what grounds?” Telling the truth in a storefront window?”

The lawyer shrugged. “I could argue that the man in that photo - were he my client - suffered irreparable harm to his reputation and public standing. I’d argue that Frank here was the proximate cause of that damage. Moreover, the level of potential harm caused by this photo goes far beyond the punishment typically handed down for this kind of petty crime.”

“Are you that good a lawyer,” I asked? Or does our country really have it’s head that far up it’s own ass?”

For the next ten minutes, we discussed the law, public shaming, petty theft, and the rights of the accused. I expressed my belief that stocks should be brought back to the public square. Frank concurred. The first guy in line called me a “modern day Torquemada,” which I took as a compliment. The lawyer was in favor of stocks, but only because they’d be good for business. The whole thing made me very thirsty for the Whistle Pig, waiting patiently in my brown paper bag.

Finally I asked, “What would happen if I posted this photo on my Facebook page? Could the shoplifter then sue me?”

“Alleged shoplifter,” said the guy in line.

“Sure,” said the lawyer. “Anybody can sue anybody for anything.”

“Yeah, but would you take the case?”

The lawyer looked at me with something I’ll call recognition. “If I thought there were a decent chance at a recovery, sure.”

“So if I post this image on my Facebook page, and the guy in the photo comes to you and says I’ve ruined his reputation by telling the world he’s guilty of shoplifting, you’d sue me? Even if the guy is proven guilty on tape?”

“Suing celebrities is fun,” said the lawyer. They usually settle, just to avoid the headache. But just to be clear - I’d sue Frank here as well.”

After careful consideration and deliberation with Frank, I’ve decided to post the photo in his front window. But upon the advice of my own attorney, I’ve concealed the identity of the no-good shoplifting scumbag in the white tee-shirt and jeans. I realize this defeats the purpose, but that’s what things have come to in my world.

Mike

PS. The guy in the photo looks a lot like Tom Cruise, circa Top Gun. (Probably not him though.)

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mr-morden-speaks:

imminentdeathsyndrome:

From the source:

It was the instant the police officer stretched out his hand and seized the belt from Ben Sullivan’s jeans, apologetically telling him he wasn’t allowed to wear it, that the reality of just what was unfolding began to register.

Moments before, groggy and disorientated, the 21-year-old Oxford student had been woken by a rap on his bedroom door. Expecting to find one of his flatmates on the threshold, he yelled for them to come in. Instead, filling the doorway were two uniformed officers and a plain-clothed detective from Thames Valley Police.

‘It was surreal, scary and a bit stunning,’ Ben says, reliving that moment on May 7. ‘I recall glimpsing the clock and noting the time – I don’t know why. It was 6.50am.’

Calmly, the officers told him he was being arrested. An allegation of rape and one of attempted rape had been made against him, and  he was being taken to Oxford’s Abingdon Road station to be formally questioned.

It was as Ben, President of the Oxford Union, the university’s 191-year-old debating society, hastily pulled on a pair of jeans and a sweater that one officer told him he couldn’t wear the belt. ‘A suicide risk,’ Ben explains with a wry smile. ‘It seemed like something from a cop show, a television drama. But it was scary. It was happening. It was real.

‘I had a total sense of disbelief and that pit-of-the-stomach anxiety when you can’t believe what is going on.’

While his arrest was shocking, Ben had been privately dreading such a knock at his door for more than a year, since rumours had begun circulating his college, Christ Church, that a student was planning to accuse him of assault. When the allegation eventually came, Ben was held for 12 hours before being released on police bail. During that time he spent four hours in a cell, and three being questioned.

It was another six tortuous weeks before the history and politics student received a telephone call, at 3.49pm last Wednesday, from his solicitor, saying: ‘Ben. Take a deep breath. No further action on both counts.’

In the interim, a gifted young man, educated at £22,000-a-year St Paul’s School and who had never before been on the wrong side of the law, has endured moments of real despair.

He has seen his own reputation trashed, witnessed the distress of his mother Betsy and father Paul, a banker from Maryland in the United States, and been forced to pay £15,000 in legal fees.

He has also been desperately worried about the impact on his two younger brothers, aged 19 and 12. Today, in his first full interview about the ordeal, Ben barely resembles his now-familiar newspaper picture. Instead of the Oxford undergraduate in a dinner jacket and bow tie, he looks wary and appears to have lost around a stone in weight.

‘Seeing my reputation trashed  has been sobering and painful,’ he reveals. ‘My whole life has been rifled through and examined. It has been utterly draining.’

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"A campaign, organised by Sarah Pine, President for Women at the Oxford University Student Union, and a cabal of outraged students also contacted at least 30 of the Oxford Union’s forthcoming speakers, urging them to boycott the debates unless Ben resigned. Intriguingly, they were urged to support the call for Ben to stand down in what they described as a ‘push for equality’.

For almost a year he had to endure whispers and gossip around campus that he was facing allegations of rape. … she waited more than a year to make her complaint to police.

Some students suggest the young woman ‘allowed the gossip to continue’ because on the day she slept with Ben she had just got back together with her boyfriend and was terrified he would find out.”

- He needs to sue her.

(via stuff-that-irks-me)

texasgunguy:

POLK COUNTY FLORIDA SHERIFF, GRADY JUDD
An illegal alien, in Polk County , Florida , who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop, ended up “executing” the deputy who stopped him. The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range. Another deputy was wounded and a police dog killed. 
The murderer was found hiding in a wooded area. As soon as he took a shot at the SWAT team, officers opened fire on him. They hit the guy 68 times.
Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they had to shoot the poor, undocumented immigrant 68 times.
Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel: “Because that’s all the ammunition we had.”
Now, is that just about the all-time greatest answer or what!
The Coroner also reported that the illegal alien died of natural causes. When asked by a reporter how that could be, since there were 68 bullet wounds in his body, he simply replied:  ….”When you are shot 68 times you are naturally gonna die.”

Polk County Florida Sheriff - “You kill a policeman it means no arrest…no Miranda rights…no negotiations…nothing but as many bullets as we can shoot into you…PERIOD.”

Yup.

texasgunguy:

POLK COUNTY FLORIDA SHERIFF, GRADY JUDD

An illegal alien, in Polk County , Florida , who got pulled over in a routine traffic stop, ended up “executing” the deputy who stopped him. The deputy was shot eight times, including once behind his right ear at close range. Another deputy was wounded and a police dog killed.

The murderer was found hiding in a wooded area. As soon as he took a shot at the SWAT team, officers opened fire on him. They hit the guy 68 times.

Naturally, the liberal media went nuts and asked why they had to shoot the poor, undocumented immigrant 68 times.

Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel: “Because that’s all the ammunition we had.”
Now, is that just about the all-time greatest answer or what!

The Coroner also reported that the illegal alien died of natural causes. When asked by a reporter how that could be, since there were 68 bullet wounds in his body, he simply replied: ….”When you are shot 68 times you are naturally gonna die.”

Polk County Florida Sheriff - “You kill a policeman it means no arrest…no Miranda rights…no negotiations…nothing but as many bullets as we can shoot into you…PERIOD.”

Yup.

An reported individual in Santa Barbara had one message for the media, following Friday night’s mass slayings: Go home.
Standing outside the Isla Vista convenience store where a university student was fatally shot by the gunman, an unknown individual displayed a sign, telling the media, “Our tragedy is not your commodity.”
“News crews, go home!” a sign in his other hand read.
The photo of the individual holding the sign was posted to Reddit Tuesday, where it quickly went viral.
A photograph snapped by the Los Angeles Times captured others holding similar signs. One woman’s said, “I want to pay my respects without being filmed.”
(source)

An reported individual in Santa Barbara had one message for the media, following Friday night’s mass slayings: Go home.

Standing outside the Isla Vista convenience store where a university student was fatally shot by the gunman, an unknown individual displayed a sign, telling the media, “Our tragedy is not your commodity.”

“News crews, go home!” a sign in his other hand read.

The photo of the individual holding the sign was posted to Reddit Tuesday, where it quickly went viral.

A photograph snapped by the Los Angeles Times captured others holding similar signs. One woman’s said, “I want to pay my respects without being filmed.”

(source)