thesilvercolonel asked: It saddens me that there are so many people that care more about political agendas than the truth. With the situation in Ferguson, MO, nothing justifies looting and rioting. If the police officer is guilty, then he needs to go to prison with a punishment that fits the crime. But, if he is innocent, then all these people who are lusting for his blood are the true monsters. Either way, rioting and twisting the truth is wrong.
Damn, that is beautifully said.
So Mike Brown robbed the store for a box of cigars and was fatally shot a short time later.
We don’t have all the facts yet as to what happened after the robbery (the shooting), but we will. Until then, I won’t comment on that part of the incident.
What I will say though is that actions have consequences. If you rob a store, the police will show up. If you are of the ilk that thinks the police will kill innocent people for no reason, then don’t rob a store and get the police involved.
As the facts come out in this case, I’m sure the narrative will fall apart even more. We as a society let our emotions take over and dictate our actions. We let 3rd person accounts and hearsay drive what should be based on cold hard facts. We also resort to violence way too easily.
Society in America has a very long way to go.
"what will you do if your boyfriend cheats on you?"
Are you kidding me? How is this at all acceptable? Would it also be appropriate to say that if my girlfriend cheats on me I’m going to cut her nipples off or something? Like what the actual fuck? I’m not saying that cheating is okay, but this certainly is not okay, like at all. You fucking people aren’t right.
I am so glad somebody said that.
A black female read a book called “Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls” for a class assignment and was required to do a presentation on the subject of aggression.
The book was about educator and bullying expert Rachel Simmons giving girls, parents, and educators proven and innovative strategies for navigating social dynamics in person and online, as well as brand new classroom initiatives and step-by-step parental suggestions for dealing with conventional bullying.
During her presentation about the book, the black female made a connection to the authors findings by sharing her personal experiences growing up in an urban community with bullying and aggression in correlation with what the author of the book states about girls and aggression in urban communities.
A second black female, relates to the first black females personal experience in relation to the book and shares that she was taught to confront issues head on and if someone puts their hands on her then she should defend herself and put her hands on them.
A white female who grew up in a working middle class family also agreed with the two black women about how to respond to aggressive behavior.
The rest of the white females present in the class looked at them puzzled, as if what the black females were saying was abnormal and barbaric. Each person commented, but as a whole the concluding argument was that they did not understand this logic. That they grew in environments where people did not physically fight. There was a mixed black female who also grew up in the suburbs that found the two black females personal relation to the book offensive because she never fought growing up. Sigh*
What aspect of the black females logic was confusing? Even if you personally never fought or had to resort to fighting, If someone is physically attacking you, then you defend yourself and physically retaliate. Why is that confusing? Because based on the scientific theory of fight or flight, what the black females are saying is more than adequate. The black women were simply stating that they were not going to tolerate that type of behavior or play the victim to bullying, and they shouldn’t. A person has the right to defend themselves against their attacker, and in many US states, stand their ground. It doesn’t mean they’re ghetto or barbaric for defending themselves against a physical attack.This response sent out an important message. Especially when reflecting over the verdict of the Martin vs Zimmerman trial. That upper middle class white people feel a black person, or any person for that matter, has no right to fight and defend themselves when they find themselves in a threatening situation.
The book, “Odd Girl Out” also talked about how suburban females dealt with bullying and aggression. Based on what was documented in the book many white females in suburban areas avoided conflict, internalized it, and, unlike the urban females who address aggressive behavior and bullying, developed health and physical issues such as depression, resulting in suicides.
Very important commentary. From a white suburban male perspective I grew up with the mentality that fighting is not the answer. Granted when we think of fighting we think of males but female fights are often put aside or considered odd. These reactions make sense, but at the same time they do not justify silencing other perspectives. Self defense is legitimate and hopefully there can be ways that these altercations can be judged a bit more fairly. It is funny how Stand Your Ground laws defend these actions, yet at the same time for only certain segments of the population.
Everybody has the right to defend themselves, regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation. If another person initiates a physical conflict with you, you have every right to defend yourself up to and including deadly force (though deadly force is heavily restricted).
Violence should always be your last resort and should never be used lightly, it is something everyone has a right to exercise in the right situations.
I think the difference between those in the suburbs and those in urban environments stems from society. Society tells us “keep your hands to yourself” and “violence is never the answer” but then glorifies violence in movies, music and video games. The stigmatization of violence is more ingrained in affluent communities whereas violence is seen more as a fact of life in less affluent communities. Neither are wrong, but both typically refuse to see the other side as true.
There is a time and place for pacifism, but there is also a time and place for violence. In a society where women are targets more often, they must know when and, more importantly, how to employ both. Society is not perfect, but with a little common sense and personal responsibility, we can all make it a better place.